there are “reasonable” suppressors out there. Po-boy is one. generally.22 suppressors are reasonable. do some research and you will find one. NFA paperwork has been fairly quick recently too
I stopped by a local gun store a few months ago that also handles suppressors, and got into a brief discussion about the process. If I wanted to go that way I would have to dig deeper and also talk with a qualified lawyer. The thing I was told is that using a trust is the best answer, though it has been made a bit less convenient recently by regulation changes.
One thing that made me hold back is that I don't have any guns that could take a suppressor. Of course you'll say there is a simple fix for that... :-)
Re the trusts, really it depends on your situation. I went with Silencer Shop's single-shot trusts. It was very easy to add Mrs B to those, so neither she nor I are federal felons if she uses the can while I'm away on travel. (My biggest fear there, really, is that more of "my" guns end up on her side of the gun safe....)
Re threaded barrels ... Depending on the gun there are indeed simple fixes, but some guns just don't make good suppressor hosts. This is a case where I would recommend trying before you buy, if possible.
That said .. get a suppressor. A PSA Dagger makes a decent 9mm "starter" host, and it could wind up being cheaper than the can.
The benefit you mentioned is what I thought I remembered but I wasn't sure about it. Thanks for the confirmation.
On "not good hosts" -- all I have is revolvers and Boberg, neither of which work. At least I understand revolvers don't because of the gap, and Boberg has a rotating barrel action so you can't thread on accessories.
Do you put suppressors on handguns or rifles, or both?
Both, from Rugged. Probably not the quietest, not the lightest, but they seem to just work pretty well all around. The Obsidian and Radiant (pistol and rifle models, respectively) let you run them either as full-length or "K" configuration (shorter, less attenuation but lighter). And I like their muzzle device selection for rifles.
Here's a really fun combo: an AR-10 with the full-length Radiant, shooting Atomic Ammo "Tactical Cycling Subsonic" rounds. The gun kind of makes a "Pthuh!" sound, with minimal recoil, followed by the CLANG!! of a gong hit. Not even loud enough to trip electronic earpro. I'm smiling remembering Mrs. B. and her friend's faces as they tried it. Really got the Jane Bond thing going for both of them. (Her friend's husband eventually forgave me for how expensive it was for him.)
You have a Boberg? I have to ask, which model? I don't think I've met another Boberg owner "in the wild." I think you could get threaded barrels for them, but yeah, that's probably not a great idea; that said, a quick DDG search didn't turn up much, in general. But hanging a can on the end of a Boberg kind of obviates the point of a very small-for-barrel-length concealable pistol in the first place.
Suppressors on revolvers ... They will in fact work, I think, as in nothing bad would happen; it's just the dB reduction won't be as much as you'd like due to the cylinder gap. On the other hand, you do need a Nagant M1895, don't you?
Boberg: I have both. Got the XR-9, liked it a whole lot, so I got the XR-45 when it came out. Like that too except when is misfeeds, which it does far too often.
I think the problem is the magazine; Arne designed it to take other .45 ammo which is slightly longer (.45 Super?) and tested that but didn't actually document it in the product specs. The result is that the mag has to hold the round by the rim, but it can't do that with the top round so the mechanism may fail to pick the round from the magazine when the slide cycles. The XR-9, on the other hand, positions the round by the case mouth, so that works reliably.
Bond Arms bought the company and makes the XR-9 still, apparently with some improvements. I keep hoping/nudging them to redo the XR-45. If they do and the fix involves new magazines I could get those for the existing gun. I've tried various tweaks to the mag myself but so far without any real improvement.
Both are nice to shoot, modest recoil for the size. Part of the reason is that the barrel is about an inch longer than in any other gun the same overall size, and from what people say the rotary action absorbs some of the recoil energy as well.
there are “reasonable” suppressors out there. Po-boy is one. generally.22 suppressors are reasonable. do some research and you will find one. NFA paperwork has been fairly quick recently too
I stopped by a local gun store a few months ago that also handles suppressors, and got into a brief discussion about the process. If I wanted to go that way I would have to dig deeper and also talk with a qualified lawyer. The thing I was told is that using a trust is the best answer, though it has been made a bit less convenient recently by regulation changes.
One thing that made me hold back is that I don't have any guns that could take a suppressor. Of course you'll say there is a simple fix for that... :-)
Re the trusts, really it depends on your situation. I went with Silencer Shop's single-shot trusts. It was very easy to add Mrs B to those, so neither she nor I are federal felons if she uses the can while I'm away on travel. (My biggest fear there, really, is that more of "my" guns end up on her side of the gun safe....)
Re threaded barrels ... Depending on the gun there are indeed simple fixes, but some guns just don't make good suppressor hosts. This is a case where I would recommend trying before you buy, if possible.
That said .. get a suppressor. A PSA Dagger makes a decent 9mm "starter" host, and it could wind up being cheaper than the can.
The benefit you mentioned is what I thought I remembered but I wasn't sure about it. Thanks for the confirmation.
On "not good hosts" -- all I have is revolvers and Boberg, neither of which work. At least I understand revolvers don't because of the gap, and Boberg has a rotating barrel action so you can't thread on accessories.
Do you put suppressors on handguns or rifles, or both?
Both, from Rugged. Probably not the quietest, not the lightest, but they seem to just work pretty well all around. The Obsidian and Radiant (pistol and rifle models, respectively) let you run them either as full-length or "K" configuration (shorter, less attenuation but lighter). And I like their muzzle device selection for rifles.
Here's a really fun combo: an AR-10 with the full-length Radiant, shooting Atomic Ammo "Tactical Cycling Subsonic" rounds. The gun kind of makes a "Pthuh!" sound, with minimal recoil, followed by the CLANG!! of a gong hit. Not even loud enough to trip electronic earpro. I'm smiling remembering Mrs. B. and her friend's faces as they tried it. Really got the Jane Bond thing going for both of them. (Her friend's husband eventually forgave me for how expensive it was for him.)
You have a Boberg? I have to ask, which model? I don't think I've met another Boberg owner "in the wild." I think you could get threaded barrels for them, but yeah, that's probably not a great idea; that said, a quick DDG search didn't turn up much, in general. But hanging a can on the end of a Boberg kind of obviates the point of a very small-for-barrel-length concealable pistol in the first place.
Suppressors on revolvers ... They will in fact work, I think, as in nothing bad would happen; it's just the dB reduction won't be as much as you'd like due to the cylinder gap. On the other hand, you do need a Nagant M1895, don't you?
Boberg: I have both. Got the XR-9, liked it a whole lot, so I got the XR-45 when it came out. Like that too except when is misfeeds, which it does far too often.
I think the problem is the magazine; Arne designed it to take other .45 ammo which is slightly longer (.45 Super?) and tested that but didn't actually document it in the product specs. The result is that the mag has to hold the round by the rim, but it can't do that with the top round so the mechanism may fail to pick the round from the magazine when the slide cycles. The XR-9, on the other hand, positions the round by the case mouth, so that works reliably.
Bond Arms bought the company and makes the XR-9 still, apparently with some improvements. I keep hoping/nudging them to redo the XR-45. If they do and the fix involves new magazines I could get those for the existing gun. I've tried various tweaks to the mag myself but so far without any real improvement.
Both are nice to shoot, modest recoil for the size. Part of the reason is that the barrel is about an inch longer than in any other gun the same overall size, and from what people say the rotary action absorbs some of the recoil energy as well.
Well if it isn't for sale, at least there's a parts list... :-)