Oh yeah, that is a point I forgot to mention. It looks like he had issues with the retention holster and drawing was delayed. Whether it was mechanical or lack of training I cannot say, but both are human errors on the officer's part..
I agree, but people would then say his firing was too early. Cops can’t win.
He told the guy to drop the bag numerous times, then the idiot produces a gun AND points it at the cop. Imo, game over. He should have ended the guy then and not waited.
The moment the bad guy displays the weapon, the shoot becomes lega and the naysayers can cry all they want. Massad Ayoob said something along the lines of if you wait to see the muzzle of the gun, the last thing you will see is what comes out of it.
Yep. In my view, the minute he reached in the bag, the cop should have put him down. Who knows how many people were endangered by all the rounds fired.
There is a certain "period of mild stress" factor involved here. I know a few cops, not many but most of them will admit the uniform and the badge are generally enough to get compliance. In reality, very few cops will actually encounter this situation in the wild.
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Does not mean they should not train for it. It is not an excuse, but most humans will not do the right thing when actually confronted with a life or death situation.
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Freezing and fumbling about is to be expected. I would guess this particular officer has never had to draw their weapon in a real life situation before, and if they did, it was likely with significant backup, or as backup.
Having survived this encounter I'd like to think that cop will be better prepared to handle another such event. We could all benefit by having a plan and to train, train, train. I'm pretty sure he knows by now that he cannot rely just on luck anymore.
I love how the suspect's reaction for the cop's first mag dump is to stand perfectly still.
Like he knows the cop is going to be shooting everywhere *except* where he's standing, so the *absolute safest* thing to do is stay put.
And I note, he didn't take many hits until he started running.
I don't want to "armchair quarterback" with how much better I think I could have done, but I will be interested to find out how many of the 40-50-odd shots fired actually hit what they were aiming at. (And I use the word "aiming" loosely.)
As soon as the gun came out the officer should have fired. Instead he retreats telling him to drop the bag while the perp points a gun at him.
Oh yeah, that is a point I forgot to mention. It looks like he had issues with the retention holster and drawing was delayed. Whether it was mechanical or lack of training I cannot say, but both are human errors on the officer's part..
I agree, but people would then say his firing was too early. Cops can’t win.
He told the guy to drop the bag numerous times, then the idiot produces a gun AND points it at the cop. Imo, game over. He should have ended the guy then and not waited.
The moment the bad guy displays the weapon, the shoot becomes lega and the naysayers can cry all they want. Massad Ayoob said something along the lines of if you wait to see the muzzle of the gun, the last thing you will see is what comes out of it.
Yep. In my view, the minute he reached in the bag, the cop should have put him down. Who knows how many people were endangered by all the rounds fired.
There is a certain "period of mild stress" factor involved here. I know a few cops, not many but most of them will admit the uniform and the badge are generally enough to get compliance. In reality, very few cops will actually encounter this situation in the wild.
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Does not mean they should not train for it. It is not an excuse, but most humans will not do the right thing when actually confronted with a life or death situation.
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Freezing and fumbling about is to be expected. I would guess this particular officer has never had to draw their weapon in a real life situation before, and if they did, it was likely with significant backup, or as backup.
Having survived this encounter I'd like to think that cop will be better prepared to handle another such event. We could all benefit by having a plan and to train, train, train. I'm pretty sure he knows by now that he cannot rely just on luck anymore.
I love how the suspect's reaction for the cop's first mag dump is to stand perfectly still.
Like he knows the cop is going to be shooting everywhere *except* where he's standing, so the *absolute safest* thing to do is stay put.
And I note, he didn't take many hits until he started running.
I don't want to "armchair quarterback" with how much better I think I could have done, but I will be interested to find out how many of the 40-50-odd shots fired actually hit what they were aiming at. (And I use the word "aiming" loosely.)
Lord had mercy. 50 shots dumped in a neighborhood. Guardian angel was doing Wonder Woman bracelet routine. On speed.